FREE test cables to Members

[CLaNZeR]

Okay after spending my Xmas and New Year reading up on the OBD-II and MUT Protocols, I am more than confident that I can produce, Hardware, Firmware and software to allow our members to do their own Onboard Diagnostics on their EVO!

If you are interested in this and want to get involved in this project, then reply to this thread so I can get an idea on how many cables I need to sling together FOC of course

The only thing I ask is that if you do sign on for testing this stuff, is to post feedback on the forums, so we can get a list of cars that it is working or not working on.

Do not worry about damaging your Car, all this stuff is read only and I will be using the correct components to protect not only your ECU from getting damaged, but also your computer

There are alot of dodgey diagrams out on the web for homemade cables and I would rather spend a extra £1 on the right components than risk damaging a car or computer.

[nads1978]

Sounds good, sign me up!

Let me know if you want a contribution.

[CLaNZeR]

Not a problem

As soon as the MC33290 chips arrive from Germany (darn Xmas post grrr) will make sure I have the PCB footprint correct for the part and knock up some PCB's!

Will keep updating threads as I do more

[Lee5]

Sounds spot on to me

I have got a few local cars that i can call on any time as well as my own if you want to sort me out a cable.

Cheers
Lee

[grayw]

That means you are going to have to get rid of that rubbish PFC
Any help I can provide Sean, let me know.

Originally Posted by Lee5

Sounds spot on to me

I have got a few local cars that i can call on any time as well as my own if you want to sort me out a cable.

Cheers
Lee

[Lee5]

Originally Posted by grayw

That means you are going to have to get rid of that rubbish PFC
Any help I can provide Sean, let me know.

You knew it was on the cards, as after working with the std ecu, and the work that has been done on it, I cant see any reason not to go back to it.

And imho, I think tuners are scared of it as we know that it can make the numbers and you don't need to spend £800 on a stand a lone ecu and for them to charge £500 to fit and map it.

Lee

[CLaNZeR]

Originally Posted by grayw

Any help I can provide Sean, let me know.

Thanks mate

Any information you have, please post.

I keep meaning to get around to posting a list of the basics, but it difficult to find time with the dining table full of different circuits I have been testing.

The test cable I have been designing and testing has been using the FTDI chip, but using Com Port serial data rather than direct calls.
Today I did away with the FTDI chip and switched to using a MAX233 chip connected directly to the serial port and got some weird results.

Even though the EVO does not use the L-Line for the MUT protocol, it seems like it may be used to do the INIT for the ECU while using a standard Serial Port cable, in as holding the K-Line High for the initial Init.

This now explains where the Folk Law of switching the data line between K and L while doing the Init to get the ECU's attention.

More to come on this, but the test cables will be based on the FTDI chip for now as it gets around having the L-Line.

When we move onto flashing cables, it now seems that the L-Line is used for communitcating away from the ECU to the ABS and AYC ECU, again more to come when my tests prove this.

[fil78]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

Thanks mate

Any information you have, please post.

I keep meaning to get around to posting a list of the basics, but it difficult to find time with the dining table full of different circuits I have been testing.

The test cable I have been designing and testing has been using the FTDI chip, but using Com Port serial data rather than direct calls.
Today I did away with the FTDI chip and switched to using a MAX233 chip connected directly to the serial port and got some weird results.

Even though the EVO does not use the L-Line for the MUT protocol, it seems like it may be used to do the INIT for the ECU while using a standard Serial Port cable, in as holding the K-Line High for the initial Init.

This now explains where the Folk Law of switching the data line between K and L while doing the Init to get the ECU's attention.

More to come on this, but the test cables will be based on the FTDI chip for now as it gets around having the L-Line.

When we move onto flashing cables, it now seems that the L-Line is used for communitcating away from the ECU to the ABS and AYC ECU, again more to come when my tests prove this.

great stuff
i may help in testing (evo IX) - in particular with logging stuff (both EFI and AYC)
Alain

[cossie1]

Yeh add me to the list sean

[CLaNZeR]

Just a quick note to say I have not forgotten you guys

The initial U-OBD cable is working great with my software Mut Monitor as well as EVOscan and MitsubishiLogger.

But I want to sort the ABS and AYC ECU logging proceedure before I knock up some PCB's and get them out the door to you guys.

Been a busy week swapping between different Hardware and Software solutions I have been working on, so will get there promise.

Cheers

Sean.

[GUM EVO X]

Put me down on the test list please...

car model: u.k evo x fq300


Regards,
GUM

[CLaNZeR]

Right sorted by the looks of it, so no more requests please, you had your chance .

6 cables and 6 different cars
Lee5 with EVO 5
Cossie with EVO6 ( Probably different ECU)
nads1978 with EVO 7
GrayW with EVO 8
FIL78 with EVO 9
GUM EVO X


Prototype PCB's should be back in the next 2 weeks and will PM you guys for delivery addresses nearer the time.

These cables will be the FTDI 232B chips for logging, not Flashing.

I have a few of the Flashing Design ones coming back as well based on the FT232R chip, but will post more on that later. For now will concentrate on the Monitoring/Logging.

All this is free and all I ask is for you guys to post your result and feedback in the forums

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

Right sorted by the looks of it, so no more requests please, you had your chance .

6 cables and 6 different cars
Lee5 with EVO 5
Cossie with EVO6 ( Probably different ECU)
nads1978 with EVO 7
GrayW with EVO 8
FIL78 with EVO 9
GUM EVO X


Prototype PCB's should be back in the next 2 weeks and will PM you guys for delivery addresses nearer the time.

These cables will be the FTDI 232B chips for logging, not Flashing.

I have a few of the Flashing Design ones coming back as well based on the FT232R chip, but will post more on that later. For now will concentrate on the Monitoring/Logging.

All this is free and all I ask is for you guys to post your result and feedback in the forums

Good stuff sean.

[BarryC]

I'll provide some feedback
am usually around 3 or 4 evo's per week
if ya want me to test the cable no hassle

[CLaNZeR]

Thnx Barry will add you name to the list

[GUM EVO X]

Sounds good and i lookforward to testing this excellent product

[fil78]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

Right sorted by the looks of it, so no more requests please, you had your chance .

6 cables and 6 different cars
Lee5 with EVO 5
Cossie with EVO6 ( Probably different ECU)
nads1978 with EVO 7
GrayW with EVO 8
FIL78 with EVO 9
GUM EVO X


Prototype PCB's should be back in the next 2 weeks and will PM you guys for delivery addresses nearer the time.

These cables will be the FTDI 232B chips for logging, not Flashing.

I have a few of the Flashing Design ones coming back as well based on the FT232R chip, but will post more on that later. For now will concentrate on the Monitoring/Logging.

All this is free and all I ask is for you guys to post your result and feedback in the forums

for sure i'll post feedbacks...
...that's really nothing compared to what you've done !

[GUM EVO X]

Any updates on this guys??

[CLaNZeR]

PCB pictures as they come along here

http://www.myrollingroad.com/showthread.php?t=87

Hoping to have PCB's back tome this week!

Sorry to say I think we are going to have to exclude the EVO-X from the tests as it looks like it is not going to work as it uses the CAN-Protocol and different Pins.

I have already started looking into the CAN Protocol and have started a new thread on the progress.

[CLaNZeR]

Email in today saying Prototype PCB's have been despatched. So should get them soldered up and out to you guys by the end of the week.

Wish it was the new PIC-OBD cable I designed now as I think you would all be blown away at the logging speed.

In saying that, try out the cables I will send out and then Part two will be getting the new PIC-OBD cable out to you, so you can appreciate the speed difference.

I think Final solution will be the Dual cable that has the tradditonal FTDI logging stuff to work with other software and then the PIC-OBD that will do the high speed logging and also the CAN Protcol for the EVO-X vehicles.

It getting there

[grayw]

Good progress Sean, MUT logging will be the icing on the cake.

[CLaNZeR]

Originally Posted by grayw

Good progress Sean, MUT logging will be the icing on the cake.

Hi Graham

I take it you mean MUT Logging for the EVO-X, as after spending the last 2 days with head buried in Mut-Monitor it is growing in strength and supports more cables than any other MUT Logging software out there for EVO 4-9

Cheers

Sean.

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

Email in today saying Prototype PCB's have been despatched. So should get them soldered up and out to you guys by the end of the week.

Wish it was the new PIC-OBD cable I designed now as I think you would all be blown away at the logging speed.

In saying that, try out the cables I will send out and then Part two will be getting the new PIC-OBD cable out to you, so you can appreciate the speed difference.

I think Final solution will be the Dual cable that has the tradditonal FTDI logging stuff to work with other software and then the PIC-OBD that will do the high speed logging and also the CAN Protcol for the EVO-X vehicles.

It getting there

Nice work sean.

You don't mess about when you have a project on your mind, do ya

[CLaNZeR]

Originally Posted by cossie1

Nice work sean.

You don't mess about when you have a project on your mind, do ya

No point pissing around mate

As I have Eight Protoype Boards coming down, some FT232B, some FT 232R, I have you down for the FT232R !!!

Not released much info on the FT232R yet, but will work the same as the FT232B, but with added stufff to come.

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

No point pissing around mate

As I have Eight Protoype Boards coming down, some FT232B, some FT 232R, I have you down for the FT232R !!!

Not released much info on the FT232R yet, but will work the same as the FT232B, but with added stufff to come.

Nice mate

Btw you have a PM

[nads1978]

Nice work fella, will be trying out on Friday! (with my limitless)

[fil78]

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR

Email in today saying Prototype PCB's have been despatched. So should get them soldered up and out to you guys by the end of the week.

Wish it was the new PIC-OBD cable I designed now as I think you would all be blown away at the logging speed.

In saying that, try out the cables I will send out and then Part two will be getting the new PIC-OBD cable out to you, so you can appreciate the speed difference.

I think Final solution will be the Dual cable that has the tradditonal FTDI logging stuff to work with other software and then the PIC-OBD that will do the high speed logging and also the CAN Protcol for the EVO-X vehicles.

It getting there

great
will test it with Evoscan and MutMonitor
Alain

[BugaBuga]

I would like to sign up but i'm really far from your country,

I can test it at Lancer GLXI 1999' is not an EVO but... can be useful?

Thanks in advance!

PD: I can transfer you the money for shipping!

[CLaNZeR]

Cases are in and getting prepared!

http://www.myrollingroad.com/showthread.php?t=107

[CLaNZeR]

Thanks BugaBuga

Will see what I have left over cable wise after knocking up these protoypes and if there is a spare one it is yours.

Originally Posted by BugaBuga

I would like to sign up but i'm really far from your country,

I can test it at Lancer GLXI 1999' is not an EVO but... can be useful?

Thanks in advance!

PD: I can transfer you the money for shipping!